Chinese Scientists Do The Impossible, They Prove Time Travel Impossible

Now, I may be speaking out of my ass here, I often do, but I took a bit of umbrage (just a smidgen) at this article announcing that Chinese scientists have proved time travel impossible.  Now, I am no physicist and I certainly don’t understand the full implications of their research, but I thought that it was not really possible to prove that something was impossible.  I will explain.

According to the article referenced above, Chinese physicists have published a study indicating that single photons cannot travel faster than the speed of light.  Okay, I get that much.  Einstein, as I remember it, was a big believer that nothing traveled faster than the speed of light.  Other scientists had speculated that if a single photon COULD travel faster than the speed of light then it might “teleport” information to another time.  Thus, the above referenced article concludes that these Chinese physicists have soundly debunked any and all possibility of time travel.

But, are these conclusions solidly supported by these facts?  Don’t get me wrong.  I’m not saying that time travel is possible.  I don’t know and I don’t really care.  However, if these scientists have in fact proven that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, haven’t they merely proven that time travel by the particular above mentioned theory isn’t possible?  I don’t know much about other theories, but I’m doubting that we know that much about the universe to say for sure that there aren’t other possibilities (Wikipedia seems to indicate other existing theories beyond faster than light travel).  They may not be possible possibilities, but isn’t this article overreaching these facts in coming to this conclusion?

Even beyond that, have they really proven that NOTHING can travel beyond the speed of light?  As I read the article, the study concerned single photons only.  I cannot see that this study indicates that there might not be other particles we have not yet discovered that cannot travel beyond the speed of light.  It doesn’t seem particularly likely that there are, but it seems a bit arrogant to assume that we have discovered everything.

Further, has this study really PROVED that a single photon cannot travel beyond the speed of light?  The study certainly indicates such, but has this study exhausted the possibilities of single photons?  It would seem that photons are a difficult thing to set labaratory conditions for in order to prove things absolutely, given that there are almost infinite different circumstances that could affect the result in some weird way.  I haven’t read the study, but it seems improbable that the scientists were able to probe everything.

Again, I’m not a particular believer in time travel.  Also, normally I’m not a big fan of believing in something that has no evidentiary or theoretical support at all (I’m not a big faith guy for believing in something in absolute certainty).  However, I’m extremely hesitant anytime someone says something has been absolutely PROVED to be true and/or untrue.  We can hypothesize, experiment, and collect data to support models that indicate that something is extremely likely and/or unlikely, but the universe is so vastly complex and our entire base of knowledge is rewritten so many times – absolute certainty just seems a little unbelievable, if not arrogant for assuming that we have not missed any little detail.

I’m just saying, the article may be jumping a little far to state that the physicists have debunked any possibility of time travel.  They have certainly shot some extremely serious holes in one of the apparently more thought out theories, but I don’t think this eliminates any possibility at all.  Of course, given the unlikelihood that time travel is possible, perhaps the reporter concerned just didn’t care or wanted to stir sci-fi fanatics up.

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10 Responses to Chinese Scientists Do The Impossible, They Prove Time Travel Impossible

  1. For one thing, the article doesn’t distinguish ordinary forward travel in time from time travel into the past, future beyond ordinary forward moment in time, and such. I’m pretty sure I move forward in time on a regular basis. Perhaps even as I’m typing.

  2. Sita says:

    I for one like to believe that time travel will use some other phenomena as yet undiscovered and not rely solely on a single photon being able to travel faster than speed of light 🙂

    • I don’t know if time travel beyond ordinary forward motion in time is possible by other means than the photon traveling faster than the speed of light, but I definitely think that they shouldn’t make conclusions about such if their evidence doesn’t extend that far.

  3. Pingback: Other Scientists Support My Assertion That Chinese Scientists Didn’t Really Prove Time Travel “Impossible.” | David Atkinson's Blog

  4. okdfs says:

    I’m pretty sure light travels at the speed of light

  5. “The team which found that neutrinos may travel faster than light has carried out an improved version of their experiment – and confirmed the result.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236

    • Janet Marie Belton says:

      So does that mean scientist will grab hold of this experiment data and create what so many feel to be the impossible? If time travel did exsist, would we as humans only find a new and more severe way to damage ourselves…..only sooner!? If this were to become possible, in whoms hands would this “gift of discovery” be rightfully placed. I love the idea of so many brilliant minds coming together to search for an amazing dicovery as this, but it is one of the most frightening thoughts as well.

      • I doubt any of the data here would be immediately useful for implementing time travel, or even that time travel is possible. Frankly, I don’t think I’d trust humans with time travel either. I just think the articles were misinterpreting what the data actually proved.

  6. Rodney Kawecki • What happen about microseconds?
    To be able for a mass to travel faster than light the mass itself must act as a conductor from which its frame or body is repulsive. In vacuum graviton’s act on moving bodies no matter what their velocity or size. Graviton’s push a positive mass away as a natural resistance in space the same way it makes planets rotate relative with their mass. The larger than mass body the slower the mass rotates over the fabric of space. This is because a mass after a specific point its weight compensates and acts against the graviton groupies that can no longer meet the requirements to push on the mass harder. The idea here is to be able to make graviton particle mass groupies to massively bombard a ship mass and to increase its repulsive push by attracting more graviton particle membrane towards our ship’s body mass in the same way Alcubierre warp drive forms a wave with the fabric but in this case a graviton particle processor that attracts a multitude of graviton repulsive membrane to the rear of the ship mass this is what slow drags the fabric energy behind the ship and forms the wave.

    You can think of this as the speed that space-time reacts to small changes in the energy-momentum content.

    Gravitons are the quanta of these ripples. You can argue that gravitons are massless spin-2 fields. The massless part means that they travel at the speed of light. if gravity is indeed the bending of space time are gravitons even needed ? Consider the Earth orbits the Sun by constantly being attracted to it, yet it takes light from the Sun 8 minutes to get to Earth.

    Consider also that if a galaxy is 100,000 light years across it would take 100,000 years for light to get across it. Now consider that gravity is holding the galaxy together therefore making me conclude that gravity is instantaneously holding the galaxy together across the entire 100,000 light years of distance.

    So is gravity faster than the speed of light? We look at gravity as the fabric that holds matter in a specific place like water in a lake with no spoiler. It is the tension on the fabric that bends in the presents of the matter – graviton affects matter lifting the burden off the fabric element thus pushing it away graviton’s are reinforced energy particles stimulating from a deeper origin inside the universe’s fabric 3D balloon. Since the universe is made up mostly of larger planetary bodies called galaxies the interior between the galaxies through a cross 3D sectioning of the bubble is what twist the galactic masses in the same manner as a north pole pushed against another positive north pole will push both entities to curve.

    Since this is precisely the case of The Hubble Model – it is the fabric that will curl into a wave when an impression of pressure is pushed on the fabric. Graviton’s are our universe’s way of not having to use gravity instead by using lesser graviton particles to slow down a velocity in space.

    It is impossible for any object to achieve the speed of light by a mechanical acceleration, which, indeed, makes going faster than light also impossible by such means. Suppose we try to accelerate an object of rest mass, m, that’s traveling at a velocity, v, up to the speed of light, c— what happens? We can’t do it because we would need an infinite amount of energy says Einstein, as the relativistic energy equation (left) shows: When v = c, the energy, E, required is infinite. The problem here in the question is problematics…meaning having to do with equal math not mass….v has no mass at all therefore it can not formulate with c which does have mass but that doesn’t mean c can’t be pushed faster than c…does it? In Einstein’s equations v has a limit from e energy, which means e is limited by v – all the energy in the world cant exceed c.

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